Questionable officiating Morrison and Boys Match

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Re: Questionable officiating Morrison and Boys Match

Postby Official » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:14 am

Choose,
Do you happen to know what they were high-fiving about?

Don't think I'd do that but they're not me.
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Re: Questionable officiating Morrison and Boys Match

Postby Iron Man » Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:50 am

Official wrote:Choose,
Do you happen to know what they were high-fiving about?

Don't think I'd do that but they're not me.


Does it matter? Not the appropriate time for High Fives! It looks as if they are celebrating one wrestlers victory or worse the other wrestlers loss!

No one should do that!
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Re: Questionable officiating Morrison and Boys Match

Postby ChooseBottom » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:34 pm

Official wrote:Choose,
Do you happen to know what they were high-fiving about?

Don't think I'd do that but they're not me.


Nope, I would only be speculating.

The topic is about questionable officiating. You said that the topic was "above the pale" to be posted. I'm pointing out that some of the officials make it difficult to believe that their actions are neutral, that they aren't hoping for one team...or against one team.

What is the proper decorum for the official? A kid works for a long time to be in that situation, and he and his parents look over at the end of the match to see that kind of thing going on - I can see how there would be hard feelings about the quality of the officiating. Can't you?
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Re: Questionable officiating Morrison and Boys Match

Postby Official » Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:58 pm

Choose,
I said dedicating a thread/effort to bashinf officials is beyond the pale, not criticism.
You might be surprised how many times it was "my fault" that a kid lost. Whether or not it was an event I got paid for or paid to attend.
I work, and teach, to be properly respectful to the sport and the athletes.
Can't answer for others.
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Re: Questionable officiating Morrison and Boys Match

Postby steelfrog » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:30 pm

I will drop the sarcasm for a short bit and tell you some of the reasons why this type of discussion frustrates me:

If you don't dominate and instead you put the match in the hands of a third party--a referee--then you have ceded the right to complain. You knew the ref (a) is incompetent (b) biased (c) could have a bad day (d) choose your poison. AND YET you put the outcome in his hands. Shame on you. Whining about it constantly and endlessly demeans you, not the ref.

And another thing--this ain't the olympics we're talking about--lighten up Francis!
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Re: Questionable officiating Morrison and Boys Match

Postby steelfrog » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:35 pm

ChooseBottom wrote: A kid works for a long time to be in that situation, and he and his parents look over at the end of the match to see that kind of thing going on - I can see how there would be hard feelings about the quality of the officiating. Can't you?


Sure. For how long though? Seriously...

Some people completely lack perspective.
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Re: Questionable officiating Morrison and Boys Match

Postby ChooseBottom » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:30 am

steelfrog wrote:I will drop the sarcasm for a short bit and tell you some of the reasons why this type of discussion frustrates me:

If you don't dominate and instead you put the match in the hands of a third party--a referee--then you have ceded the right to complain. You knew the ref (a) is incompetent (b) biased (c) could have a bad day (d) choose your poison. AND YET you put the outcome in his hands. Shame on you. Whining about it constantly and endlessly demeans you, not the ref.

And another thing--this ain't the olympics we're talking about--lighten up Francis!


Your argument seems to make the assumption that a wrestler has the ability to dominate his opponent - or that he took it easy - or his opponent was not close to his equal, which is simply not the case. The officials should be held to a standard to providing a fair environment to prove who is better. The question exists as to if this happened or not. It further exists as to if the officials were partial for or against certain teams or individuals based on their actions. It is completely legitimate to bring into question their intentions, behavior, and ability to operate in a fair manner.

To the kid involved, it is the Olympic games my friend. Most will go no higher than this level and many are "fortunate" just to have made the tournament. If you are honest about it, the reason we have officials is because it is a big deal to the kids and we want them to have the ability to vet out the better wrestler in each match - or we could leave the officials at home.

P. S. How long? Ask the parents who are still upset.
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Re: Questionable officiating Morrison and Boys Match

Postby Oldgrappler » Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:14 am

How long...as long as people keep hitting reply or until death...whichever comes first
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Re: Questionable officiating Morrison and Boys Match

Postby steelfrog » Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:26 pm

This attitude is why none of you all will ever take me down. E. Ver.
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Re: Questionable officiating Morrison and Boys Match

Postby bararmbrawler » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:44 am

The fundamentally error that people make in bad-mouthing officials, is that they think officials care who wins or loses the match. The truth is officials usually don't even know or care who is wrestling the match. All they care about is making the correct calls.
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